We are at a dangerous point in this election when our media seems unable to grasp that the most basic rules that hold democracy together are under daily assault from a determined and increasingly violence-prone minority. Let us be clear about what McCain/Palin are doing:
John McCain has authorized Sarah Palin to use not just lies and smears but deliberately inflammatory rhetoric to incite hatred and fear of Barack Obama. Audience members are already calling for violence. It is only a matter of time before McCain/Palin's falsely linking Obama to terrorism and unAmerican sympathies will erupt in violence against Obama's people, the media or anyone opposing the McCain/Palin ticket.
Inciting others to violence is a crime, a dangerous felony, and it is time for our media to stop treating this incitement as just another gradation of "negative campaigning." Such head-in-the-sand dismissiveness is too often "balanced" by stories that "the other side is doing negative ads too" as though pointing out flaws in an opponent's position on health care was equivalent to insinuating your opponent is a menace to public safety.
A perfect example is this article on ABC
"At some level, negative rhetoric is part of the game. But is it truly dangerous?" asked Kimberly Gross, a professor of political communication at George Washington University. "Is someone going to kill Barack Obama because they went to a Palin rally? Probably not, and if they do it is more likely because they're crazy than because they heard someone tell them to do it at a Palin rally. It is dangerous in a bigger sense that it is bad for politics."
Ya think? How reassuring to know that if someone beats up a CNN camera crew, or assaults Obama supporters after attending a Palin rally, it was only because they were already predisposed to violence.
The Media Have been Had Again
The McCain campaign told us they wanted to change the subject from the economy, and they have succeeded. The Ayers story is now replacing the economy on all news/political shows. But no one is explaining even that correctly. Here is the essence that has been lost:
Obama has had completely non-violent associations with people who are interested in education, in housing, in community development. Lots of people have joined in the same effort because they too believe in those things, including Democrats, Republicans, Independents and yes, even people who once believed it was okay to throw bombs 40 years ago. None of these people, including Obama, associated to support violence or terrorism. End of story.
McCain/Palin's insinuation that Obama associates with terrorists because he sympathizes with terrorism or violence is a flat lie, a despicable smear; it's time for the media to call it what it is and to condemn the campaign for sinking into the gutter.
It is not an answer to say, "well McCain also associated with violent groups." Obama has done nothing wrong, so saying "McCain did it too," is the wrong response and only feeds the smear. If McCain has questionable associations that suggest he believed in/supported questionable activitives, then that is a separate story and should be investigated. But it should not be used to legitimize the smear that Obama's associations to promote education, housing and community development were wrong.
Get it straight media, before violence erupts. It's up to you to stop this.
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Honestly, Scarecrow,
I sound like a broken record, but because hate radio has incited people to violence against crimaliens - their term - 24/7 for years, people are used to this. Radio is the media in many people’s minds.
Because hate stations such as WTKK of Boston have allowed their genius staff to attack Muslims daily, Sarah, Cindy and John are validating their positions.
They are feeding off of each other and it’s not over yet.
Some on teevee have begun to address this. Campbell Brown on CNN in her “Special Comment” called it race-baiting.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....33172.html
But this crap from McCain/Palin needs to stop before some nutjob with an AK-47 decides to be a “hero.”
Thank goodness you got me out of that thread!
Personally, I’m not thinking the McCain/Palin rallies are just KKK meetings. That’s how these rallies are coming across to me as I watch excerpts of them on my tv. Scary.
As my ole blog friend, Dave of the Jungle, said recently on A-blog, “I ask the Republican Party to disband immediately”. Hear hear! They are dangerous to our sovereign.
CTuttle, i left you a message downstairs
Whenever Howie Carr of WRKO Radio out of Boston goes after the homeless, there is an upswing of violence towards the homeless in Massachusetts and in Maine. Sick.
Bingo. Tell it like it is.
The rage and emotion of the attendees at their rallies is so intense, I wouldn’t be surprised if that, and the economic situation, make them think we’re in a civil war of sorts.
Bad, bad, dangerous situation for Obama.
I hesitate to bring it up again but the ABC news had this dude on at the Mc Cain rally in Wisconsin just screaming about how mad he was and what “hooligans” Pelosi, Obama and the rest are.
Charles Keating has gotten into the act of inciting hate against Obama.
I’m likening the audiences of the McCain/Palin rallies to the same intensity of a Brazilian soccer game where the energy is high and the stadium ends up collapsing at the weight of it all!
Saw it!
Keating was on Dennis Miller at the time.
Here’s the video of it. I posted it on my blog tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuSYHnVpYbs
Watch Palin after this fascist asshole runs his mouth. She’s the pretty woman in the crowd who yells, “That black man raped me!”, just to incite violence. Spit.
It’s why I posted an Ox diary with that crazy YouTube today. They are angry, don’t care why and want to stay that way..
Dugg you Scarecrow. Thanks.
I surely hope obama has the balls to re-introduce “the fairness doctrine” and to BREAK UP consolidated media
NO MORE local papers or media owned by multi state corporations either
You can feel the mob mentality in those crowds…somebody lights a match..
There must be a way to sue the McCain Campaign for this…some kind of serious warning that they will be held responsible if something happens. They are ramping up the nerves of people with lies and rhetoric. It would be no different than standing on the sidelines and egging someone on to “go get” someone…they are complicit.
I’m really furious about this. What can be done?
Inciting violence is not just negative campaigning, it’s criminal behavior…!
Btw, imagine my surprise when I saw my diary in the top ten…!
man, there’s a sailor who tied his boat to the wrong peer
epud
gawwww Cindy Lou is a C**nt…Johnnie is correcto
“could I just say, the gentleman is right”.
I had a nightmare about this…
What?
Well, if this was liberals doing this, it would fall under the Military Commissions Act or the Patriot Act or some other Act/signing statement we don’t know about.
NEOCON LIE OF THE DAY: “The reason why the cop down in Florida is in trouble with the Feds is because he said “Hussein” when talking about Barack Obama”
TYPICAL LIBERAL RESPONSE TO THE NEOCON LIE OF THE DAY: “Ummmm, no. That’s no the reason why the cop down in Florida is in trouble with the Feds. He’s in trouble for wearing his on-duty police uniform and standing on a stage promoting a political party, which is a violation of the Hatch Act! Dumbasses. Don’t you know anything? Clean out your ears and step away from Fox News for 4 seconds!!! You might learn something!”
I was disappointed to hear Obama speaking to a crowd about McCain ‘erratic behavior.’ I wish he wouldn’t go there. Just stick to the issues and leave McCain to flail away to his cold heart’s content.
LOL Now, now, now, Raven….playing the Devil’s Advocate is my job, okay? You’re making me look bad and you’ve knocked my sarcasm off kilter at the moment. Now stop it!!!!!
yea he can discuss hatred and DEVISIVE tactics …that would be good
I’ve been taking heat because I don’t like the anti-Obama stuff that has been going on here. The book salon Sunday was ridiculous. If people don’t think there is any difference between these two candidates so be it but I’ll be damned if I’m not going to speak up.
It is going to get worse until the election because of the pressure of the economy…McCain is blaming Obama right and left, and they are eating it up…they are looking for someone to blame for losing the value of their 401K’s, and McCain is being completely despicable.
McCain is the most dishonorable candidate….EVER.
Update at HuffPo says that Secret Service is now investigating this matter. Personally, I view that as good news.
That was Mc Cain’s quote, should have noted that.
Which matter?
GOOD ON YA…………..some people just have no fukkkkkkkin idea what is at stake
he is a pussy coward,who has never had a FINANCIAL worry in his entire ill begotten life
George Bush got the “Worst Person In The World” award tonight on KO! Did I hear why? Nope! I was reading blog comments and obviously can’t do two things at once. *giving myself a V8 juice bonk to the head*
they have certainly made the secret service’s job a nightmare, as if it wasn’t hard enough before these sociopaths Began inciting assassination
can you imagine what the secret service will go through if an attempt is even marginally successful?
the ain’t gonna be happy with the people that incited it
Agreed. Can’t Obama personally sue Palin and McCane for slander? This cannot be legal…
Heck, I’m watching Wake-Clemson, Dodgers-Phils, scratching LilBit and pissing people off all at once!
I thought you were trying to be me where I go after the Obama-haters on here by posting links to McCain’s campaign to give $2,000 or a link to Mitch McConnell for everyone to give him a ‘thank you card’ for being the bestest guy in the whole wide world! LOL Nevermind.
man, it is gonna be impossible to pick any one reason why, I wonder how ko chooses, does he take all the depravity and just toss it in the air, whichever lands closest is the winning reason
My mistake, it was the co-chair of the mccain campaign, Frank keating, who was on Dennis Miller. Oops!
i love ya…they depress me.ill tell ya
They need to investigate McCain and Palin’s motives for allowing and inciting this situation.
I am hoping the new york yankees win this time
I LOVES me some don mattingly and joe torre
GO YANKEES!
It’s a false argument you produce, imo. If we cannot question and criticize.. we certainly cannot claim to be better now nor sincerely think we or he will be better later. And by the way, there are a lot of good people who consider themselves to be far left of Obama… and they don’t think they are perfect because of it.
If I vote left of Obama… it’s because I want him to remember the left when he looks at numbers later on… not take us for granted.
Probably not since the KKK is allowed to hold meetings in our country and they incite violence & hatred against blacks and whoever else they hate at the moment.
If *gasp* Barack Obama was assassinated, I think there would be a case then. Unfortunately, that’s how it is.
Where’s the Secret Service? They obviously have agents protecting Palin, don’t they take note of the loudmouths in the audience? Don’t they hold them for a little “interview” regarding threats against a candidate who they are also reponsible to protect. Or maybe the noise from the crowd are Palin shills…
I would prefer they arrest them for it.
at the very least warn them they are committing a crime and then actually go public with the charge
obviously that is not gonna happen, the secret service is as a-political as a government agency can get me thinks
and there is a time and a place for everything
Did everyone see that Obama bought 1/2 hour on CBS and NBC for a speech to be on 10/29? Yeah!
Sounds good to me, Perris. Email KO about this technique, because he might be racking his brain out too much! LOL
Sadlyes, I know what you mean. Nothing worse than getting the feeling it will be Democrats who keep Democrats out of control in November. Something is telling me, though, that the wave is real in support of Obama, so let’s hope most of the supporters aren’t reading FDL on some nights! *crossing fingers*
The riots that would ensue would cause the McCains and Palins to have to flee the country…no amount of domestic military operations would stop the people from friggin’ going balistic.
if you DONT vote for Obama you are taking a big chance…for all of us
I will vote and lobby for obama THIS election, but he BETTER turn his triangulating butt BACK to the people and AWAY from his corporate distributers, because we WILL lobby against him next election if he does not deliver and we DO make a differance
Their motive is clear, McCain would make any sacrifice to be president, human sacrifice, that is.
Alot of us have had nightmares about this. McCain is yelling fire in a theater.
um yah
There was an item about Chas. Keating, found over at Think Progress:
I have DishTV, and Obama has his own channel..right next to the local channels…it runs his plan for America 24/7.
unfortunately not, I think.. but like I said before, justice will come in the form of a 364 to 174 electoral landslide for Senator Obama.. heck, make that 365. We get elector of Omaha.
anyone know the score in the yankee playoff game?
Yes, I saw that on ABC. Since I wrote this early today — it was on Oxdown — McCain has released his lengthy smear ad on obama/ayers and he and Palin have continued the themes in interviews with Charlie Gibson and at compaign appearances. All the “leaks” the mcCain people put out yesterday that mcCain was upset about this stuff was all bunk. He’s embracing it and is now facing audiences he can’t control at his own rally. Something about reap what you sow comes to mind.
Yup. Cold, cold, ambitious heart.
LA 1 Phils 0 btm 2
Such as post FISA and post ardent endorsement of the bailout and continuous promise of more war in Afghanistan and Pakistan… For me anyway, maybe not you.
Makes a difference where you live. Cast a protest vote for any candidate you like if your state is not in contention. Neither candidate is spending one thin dime campaigning here in Illinois.
Exactly. One of the talking heads said the other night…if Obama is ahead by 5 points going into the election and he ends up losing it because of something ’strange’, then he’s expecting a huge reaction. He didn’t say what but it’s obvious he’s talking about riots across this country. But don’t you think George Bush wants that? I think so. America is a pressure cooker right now for sure. Palin isn’t helping it by pointing her boobs at each and every male in the audience while spouting anti-liberal/Obama lies either.
It’s posted at 13, it’s actually more of this moron than was shown on ABC
The Chas. Keating quote might be interpreted as “I’m going to stick to you like stink on shit.”
has everyone seen that mccain has “announced” that he is releasing an add that questions the ayers/obama add?uhyup
now obama BETTER take off the gloves, he has TONS of ammo, I do NOT want to see simple defence, I want to se block and parry, an ATTACK back at this maggot
so you would have felt different if his vote on the bailout had not been “ardent”?
GO YANKEES!
thanx for the scoreboard raven!
I think Obama is steadily increasing the intensity of his rhetoric. He has been portraying McCain as desperate and erratic. He is winning and he has the truth on his side. I think much of the electorate sees through McCains tactics. Not everyone is as dumb as people who take time off from work to go to a Palin rally.
I would have felt different if he hadn’t endorsed Barrow, flipped on his FISA promise… sincerely wanted to get out of MIC spending and needless usage… as well as demanded or stayed out of the way of those who did demand real economic reform… regulation etc. during the bailout.
There is this too…gun totin’ voter:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._1008.html
So what are you going to do about it? Are you going to vote for McCain. Are you going to vote for Cynthia McKinney, Bob Barr?
And apparently McC has big money problems. Tough place to be in the final stretch.
The asian markets are really tanking, but, in better news the yankees lost to the red sox.
That was my take too…
hahahahahahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxL7MKsGoPo
Exactly what Rachel just said. Good point. Really good.
Eureka, Please not Cynthia or Barr! Somebody needs to use google. The road runner would be better.
As Rush or Hannity will tell you, they only arrested the guy because he’s a “conservative.”
And, I would like to mention this earlier post by Dave Neiwert at FDL
The Obama Plotters: The Republican Double Standard In Law Enforcement Made Manifest
~~It seems there may be a reason federal law-enforcement officials are not interested in pursuing serious charges against the white-supremacist tweakers who were caught this week in Denver: The man making the decision is a Republican operative. And when it came to a threat against John McCain by a black man, he had a completely different approach.~~
read on….
Have not decided. My Senator Mark Lieberlovin’ Pryor is not an option for me. My Rep. Bushbot Boozeman isn’t either… As it looks now I am not in a potential swing for Obama state. If it remains clearly win here for Mccain. I will vote Nader or McKinney.
If I were in a swing state.. I would definitely vote O.
… is McCain’s strategy
Off to watch the game. Play nice
I think more than that. Some of the crap on talk radio should simply not be allowed on the air waves. It’s not political and it’s not entertaining. it hate speech and lie spewing and licenses should be revoked. Radio has really sunk very low and it’s hard to listen to these hateful liar punks.
The likes of Hanity, Ingraham, Severin and others are way over the line in my opinion.
Suggests that a lot of the usual Republican donors consider him a lost cause.
the yankees won’t be facing the redsox this season unless both break through to the world series
GO TORRE!
your faith is misplaced jpl9, once the redsox broke there curse they fractured the circle of life, this is why all these bad things are happening, katrina, psunami, the stock market…everything
the circle of life must be repaired if our democracy is to survive
Arrrggghhh, love ya man. I gotta get out of here so I have some chance to wind down and sleep.
While I am sickened by McCain’s tactics, I can’t help but wonder if there’s a free speech issue here. As long as Palin doesn’t directly advocate violence, I don’t think she can be punished.
I may not agree with what you say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.
I just hope karma does the job for us.
Tell the dawgs I said, “Howdy.”
Does everyone realize how important this year’s election is after 8 years of George Bush & Dick Cheney? Why the hell would ANYONE vote for a republican or not for Barack Obama if you’ve truly been paying attention?
MY ATHEIST ‘PRAYER’ FOR THE DAY:
Looks like it~hope it will happen…
not everyone is dumb but there are always teh dumb and dumber, for instance from raw story;
this is not an isolated chap and the mccain tactics give these people the “courage” to act on their bigotry
Karma didn’t do the job for MLK, JFK, RFK, Malcolm X.
Ding.
Hysterical! Thanks for posting it.
there is free speech but there is also responsibility.
these candidates need to shut those people up as quick as they speak and they are not doing it
I am for free speech also but there has to be responsible reaction to speech that incites violence
Cupcake Monster… finally, a credible supernatural entity worthy of my feigned support.
This talk of not voting for Obama because of this or that is, with all due respect, total bullshit. We are in a fight for the soul of this country and anyone flirting with not voting for Obama is dillusional. With fraudulent voting machines practically everywhere a giant turnout is essential and every vote counts.
Would never vote for Barr.. though I am begging some republicans to consider doing so. Would only vote Green to help push the D’s to the left. I live in AR, not IN, OH, FL, PA etc.
LOL Normally I say, “Banana Cupcake”, but I was feeling a little energized tonight.
WTF? Rachel is handing the republicans a way to steal the election. Will people who said they would vote for Obama in a poll NOT because he’s black?
Coming up after the ad.
ES- McKinney was my rep. There was a much earlier thread where JPL9 and I discussed her “attributes” from our on the ground experience. Thumbs down, like totally. Even though she was no longer my rep. I celebrated when she got soundly beaten in the Dem primary (where she had been elected Rep the second time around in a diff. district - redistricting) by Hank Johnson, who has turned out to be a really solid progressive. Hank voted against the bailout bill, btw. Sorry, but I have nothing nice to say about McKinney.
Thanks for posting that. Dang, I love Betty White.
It is not delusional. Not in every situation. Why is that so hard for some to comprehend?
Funny!
perris (98):
The issue comes from who’s reacting to the speech. The candidates should definitely shut up those who speak out in violent ways, but the secret service probably shouldn’t. I mean, a lot of people wear shirts that call Bush a domestic terrorist (agreed), and we wouldn’t want them getting “inciting violence” charges. I just think we’re walking a fine line if we label stupid political defamation speech as “hate speech”
the tee shirts that call bush a terrorist do not then go on to yell “kill him”
Reposting my Atheist prayer for those who are against Barack and is a Democrat/progressive/liberal at heart:
Are we clear now? LOL
Hannity just INKED A 100 MILLOION DOLLAR CONTRACT today or his RADIO show… i shit you not..SKINHEAD = very high paying job
ES- Although I’ve said that I would vote for Obama- two words- Supremem Court that was what I was thinking at the time. I still don’t know what I’ll do when I get into the voting booth. It may be close in GA. But, if I register a protest vote it will NOT be for McKinney.
Naaaah, I don’t believe that for one second. I say this because when I do phone banking in my area and speak to those old white ladies in my area, they are pumped up for Barack Obama! I’m serious. We have a 4% black population here in Maine and Barack is hugely popular throughout the whole state.